Your First Year of Licensing – Post Licensing Changes

I’ve received a few questions lately from newly licensed agents about how the 12 month PL requirement works with a 2 year re-license cycle.  Below is the explaination from the Education Director at the Real Estate Board.

 

Dear Virginia Real Estate Board Education Providers:

 Please be aware and inform your post license education students of the following two important points:

 1. New Real Estate Salespersons initially licensed by the Virginia Real Estate Board (the Board) on or after July 1, 2008, must complete the 30-hour Post License Education Curriculum within one year of obtaining this Salesperson license.  If a New Salesperson fails to complete this 30-hour post license education requirement within one year of initial licensure, then the Board will automatically place his/her license on “Inactive” status.  A licensee cannot practice real estate in Virginia with an Inactive license.  A New Salesperson licensee can activate an Inactive license only by: 1) Completing the 30-hour post license education requirement; and 2) Filling out and submitting an “Activate/Transfer Application” form with a $60 fee to the Board.  

 2.  The Virginia Salesperson License is valid for two years, this includes New Salespersons.  Although New Salespersons licensed on or after July 1, 2008, must complete their post license education within one year of initial licensure, they will not receive any credit from the Board for any Continuing Education courses they complete before their first two-year licensure term ends.  Some New Salesperson licensees may be inclined to think that since they completed their 30-hour post license education requirement, they can then immediately get started on completing the 16-hour continuing education hours that will be required of them during their second two-year licensure term.  This is not so.  New Salespersons must wait until their first two-year licensure term ends, then they can begin to take Continuing Education courses.  This is addressed by 18 VAC 135-20-101 of the Real Estate Board’s Regulations (Qualifications for Renewal; Continuing Education Requirements), which states:  “All active salespersons… shall be required to complete a total of 16 instruction hours DURING EACH LICENSING TERM.”   The licensee must complete the Continuing Education hours DURING the LICENSING TERM, not BEFORE the LICENSING TERM begins.

 

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9 Responses to Your First Year of Licensing – Post Licensing Changes

  1. “New Salespersons must wait until their first two-year licensure term ends, then they can begin to take Continuing Education courses.”

    This is false. They can take as many CE courses as they like, but they won’t count towards their second relicensure.

  2. Matthew,
    Thanks for Blogging this topic. When I got this message from DPOR I saw trouble. Kim is correct technically, but that is just a case of poor wording from DPOR. The real problem is that this will cause confusion to those licensees who fall under the rule. Licensees will take courses and then look at us like we have a horn growing out of our head when we explain to them that they do not get credit.

    The real problem is that this ruling will discourage folks from taking education – not what we intended when we passed this amendment.

    As an easy solution, I have suggested that VAR seek a chnage to make the initial license period a one year deal to match the PL requirement. Local schools are going to have to deal with this and since VAR came up with the idea of 1-year PL (which I support), I’m hoping they can fix this problem.

    The only good news is that we have been getting so few new members since the law went into effect, very few folks are affected by this.

  3. Dave,

    I blogged about my concerns with this somewhere last year. Essentially agents are going to take the easy way out and take some accelerated online program and retain none of the information. Thus defeating the attempt to infuse higher education in the first year. My suggestion is to double the pre-licensing requirements from 60 to 120 hours and include more education before even giving out the license.

    I know that a great deal of this is on the job training…. Of course I’d like to see separate licenses for commercial and property management; as well as a journeyman requirement similar to appraisers – but I’m not holding my breath…

    I know that change like this is painful, political and requiring of patience. It’ll happen eventually.

  4. Matthew,
    Unfortunately, increasing the pre-licensing hours has a problem you do not mention. There are so few people seeking a real estate license right now that many schools are no longer offering priciples classes or have cut back dramatically. With the lack of students, it is not financially feasible to run more Pre-licensing classes. Students would be forced to take on-line licensing classes which have reportedly (meaning I have no hard evidence) not prepared students as well for the test. I’d love to know the pass rate for on-line priciples compared to in-class.

    The entire REALTOR organization reacted too slowly to the mass influx of members that started in 2002 and lasted until early 2007. By the time we instituted PL most of the folks were already through the pipeline. Your idea would have been great in 2002, but the current market has fixed many of our issues with untrained/unprepared newbies. We just need to fix this unintended confusion caused by our latest attempt to fix/improve CE/PL. We also need to stop messing with CE and mistakenly believing that it will make bad agents good – but that’s just my opinion.

  5. I still do not agree with these education requirements that many states impose. To me they seem more like Fee collection than they do adding much.

  6. Morristown: The real estate board doesn’t benefit from the CE training. They do receive a fee to renew the license, but not from the education. Continuing to expand one’s knowledge is a necessary part of being a practitioner; unfortunately we can’t trust agents to do so on their own. I’m an avid reader, and that knowledge still doesn’t replace what can be gained from a good educator in a classroom setting.

    The issue with real estate is that the educators aren’t interesting and do not make the learner feel as if the time invested will have any real return. If agents actually found classes interesting and valuable, than it wouldn’t matter if it was mandated or not.

  7. Matthew,
    Sorry to hear you have boring instructors in Fredericksburg. We have awesome instructors in Charlottesville, so feel free to send your students our way! :-)

  8. Dave, this actually made me LOL…. Let’s compare notes some time!

    Looking at my notes, it seems that we’ve had a few of your members at our association. So, we’ll keep teaching your agents and you can keep your instructors :)

    Actually I think Virginia in general has done a fantastic job of developing and training educators. However, when I got started, the instructors (all over the state) was still asking students to “read parts of the code” as we went around the room…. yawn

  9. Matthew, I find really very boring instructors in Fredericksburg, & Charlottesville is at wow!! I find Virginia in a very good role…!

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